Update time：2021-07-09 13:05Tag: ghost of tsushima ps5
1Deadlyblack7 days ago
I would love a native PS5 version of Ghost. Taking the PS5 backwards compatability patch and pushing it even farther?
Sign me up!
Regarding the PC port; time for everyone to freak out about the game coming to PC. As if PC Game Pass doesn’t do the same thing with Microsoft’s exclusives but on day one.
2RBMango7 days ago
Out of all the PS4 exclusives not called Bloodborne, I think Ghost is the one I’d love to play the most on PC.
3nessisonett7 days ago
Doesn’t really matter either way. PS5 version would be cool. PC version would be cool.
4Ralizah7 days ago
Yeah, if you’re going for a cross-generation, multiplatform strategy for first-party releases like Sony at least partially is, trumpeting about how games don’t appear anywhere else isn’t a great strategy.
Pretty soon, the only games that PC won’t get will be first-party Nintendo exclusives.
Too bad buying a new GPU for a decent price is next to impossible at the moment.
5Grimwood7 days ago
Ok, if exclusives are not exclusives anymore after about a year (and not 4) then, bye bye PlayStation
6B-I-G-DEVIL7 days ago
Hope they add cross play for legends mode.
7Brydontk7 days ago
@Grimwood I wouldn’t go THAT far, but it is an interesting choice imo. The exclusives being exclusive is a major contributing factor to what made the PS4 dominate. The choices theyre making this gen just seem so weird to me. Like they’re going out of their way to undo what made them so successful last gen.
8Aelurio7 days ago
Removed – current gen piracy/emulation
9Rob_2307 days ago
I’d be amazed if this didn’t go to PC. It’s free money for Sony and im sure sales have more or less dried up on PS4 at this point. 1 year isnt very long mind. Seems like the gap is narrowing somewhat.
I’d rather news of a sequel than a port to PS5. As good as this game is, i’ve already 100% it, and just want more. Such a good game!
10Divergent957 days ago
To be honest, I’m starting to truly dislike Playstation and this path they’re taking… it’s breaking my heart. (SW Episode III reference lol)
Anyway, Xbox could be my next gen console.
Jim’s leadership isn’t sitting right with me and I hope more people get vocal about it.
11zebric217 days ago
Chip shortages changed all plans and strategy..Sony clearly sees that it won’t meet console demand any time soon..software sales aren’t looking good either..pc could be another cash flow pipeline for Sony.
12Netret01207 days ago
Knowing that PS Exclusives come to PC less than a year after release would seriously entice me and i am sure others to just upgrade their PCs and forego buying a PS5.
I see why Sony would do this but surely this will hurt hardware sales and boost software sales which cancel eachother out so no real benefit
13GoatArmageddon7 days ago
GOW also had the “Only on Playstation” removed and still hasn’t come to PC or PS5 so this doesn’t automatically mean anything
14Jango-Forest7 days ago
Got a physical copy a few days ago and it’s missing the “only” tagline. Annoys me slightly, for some reason. Doesn’t have the Legends thing either, though.
15twick877 days ago
If PlayStation “exclusives” are only exclusive for a year, then why should I bother getting a PS5? I’ll just put that money into a gaming rig.
16mucc7 days ago
@Divergent95 Xbox literally does the same thing with every one of their games that you’re complaining about Playstation for yet Xbox is going to be your next console? Wouldn’t you just go PC for that to make sense?
17mucc7 days ago
Also I love how removing a label on box art sends people into a fanboy frenzy. They said recently that 2 years seems right when it comes to ports and the game is a year old. This article means nothing. For people saying to just “upgrade your PC” good luck. A decent graphics card right now is double the price of a Ps5 or Series X. I bought a 3080 off a scalper in November for $900, now that card is going for 2 grand.
18Snake_V57 days ago
@Brydontk Exactly! PlayStation has always been built on the strength of it’s exclusives, having exclusives you won’t find better anywhere else. Now Sony are just putting them on PC also taking away too one of the biggest draws of owning a PlayStation.
19naruball7 days ago
Sigh… I really don’t think it’s good strategy, but alas.
20Master_Shake7 days ago
I thought the person who originally started this yesterday updated his comment and said that the new box art did in fact have the “Only on Playstation” wording. I think this has already been debunked.
21Robinsad7 days ago
I think this is ok but they should prob keep a few franchise exclusive, like god of war, uncharted and little big planet maybe
22MS70007 days ago
@Divergent95 To Sony: “You’re going down a path I can’t follow!”
Sony: “Because of Xbox?”
To Sony: “Because of what you’ve done; what you plan to do.”
Okay, I’ll stop now.
On topic, if this is true, why Sony are so keen on throwing away the main reason to get a PS5, I have no clue.
23mrtennis19907 days ago
Don’t see a problem with this at all. How about before porting games to PC after a few years, Sony puts them on PS Plus/PS Now/native ps5 version to boost up there own service? I don’t get why Sony still hasn’t combined both ps plus/now and remarketed to compete with gamepass in some sense. Ps now is underrated and much better then what people put it out to be in my opinion.
24Divergent957 days ago
@mucc Well, Xbox has been doing the whole console/PC ecosystem for many, many years and they never pretended otherwise.
Playstation on the other hand… Yeah :
25B_Lindz7 days ago
Unpopular opinion, but if Sony wanted to rake in some serious money, all they would have to do is create their own launcher on PC. I know PC players would hate this, but then Sony wouldn’t have to split the profits with another company. If Sony did that, I wouldn’t be surprised if we saw all of their flagship exclusives come to PC.
26Divergent957 days ago
@MS7000 LOL! And exactly my friend!
27truerbluer7 days ago
PlayStation has completely alienated me as a long time fan of the brand, I see no reason to get a PS5 if this is the strategy moving forward. If 2 years is all it takes for games to get ported to PC then I’m just going to go all in on PC where I’ll also get every Xbox game.
Their communication has been so poor, the least they could have done is reassure PlayStation owners that exclusives will remain at least for the duration of the whole generation but they couldn’t even tell us that; says a lot about the confidence in their own products.
28gollumb827 days ago
Seems to me Sony doesn’t think a PS6 is on the cards so why not just sell their entire library to PC? I mean, it stands to reason knowing that streaming is going to be big in 3-5 years.
As others have said: once PS exclusives become timed exclusives (for a short time, that is) there’s no point in buying a Playstation anymore. Once Naughty Dog games come to PC, I’m selling my PS5 and buying a PC.
29The_New_Butler7 days ago
The end is nigh! PlayStation is forever doomed and Sony shall fall soon after. No longer shall we enjoy our spare time on the plastic boxes emblazoned with the PS logo for the road to PC is also the road to damnation!
Though shalt instead pay ￡1100 for thy GPU or switch to Xbox where thou cannot play your favourite games at all….
Oh hang on, now I say it that sounds really stupid. You could get an Xbox Series X and a PS5 and still have change for a Gamepass sub and a few ￡70 PS games.
Console gaming has never been better, the hardware is top notch for the price, gamepass is total value for money and Sony keep knocking absolute belters out the park for us all.
Leave the PCs for word processing and enjoy your games.
30Play7 days ago
Saw this coming a mile away. Ghost of Tsushima features a plethora of ads from other PlayStation franchises like Shadow of the Colossus, Ratchet & Clank, Bloodborne, Gran Turismo, and The Last of Us. I assume all these games are coming to PC sooner than later.
31PossibLeigh7 days ago
@mrtennis1990 That may have something to do with the disparate quality levels between those two games…
32Col_McCafferty7 days ago
I have been very vocal about this in the past but I’m not sure I care anymore. I still think a situation like with HZD where PC players receive the best version and PS5 are still waiting for the game to be upgraded is far from ideal, but this seems to be an isolated case.
One day they’ll release a game day one on both PS5/PC and if the latter is cheaper then may God have mercy on us all!
I think MS will be happy with more PS games being released on PC, less PS5s sold the better.
33GKO9007 days ago
Sony it’s gonna regret this decisions in the long run since this benefits Microsoft more than Sony thinks
Edit Also people buys consoles for the exclusives (Look at Nintendo) if no one buys a PlayStation their online revenue it’s gonna go to the drain in the near future
34mrtennis19907 days ago
@PossibLeigh very good point
35xRetrox7 days ago
I really don’t care about a Playstation console anymore at this point, and I don’t mind playing exclusives 2 or 3 years later provided they come to PC.
36Floki7 days ago
People are acting like this is gonna suddenly destroy Playstation. Playstation have out grown the need for exclusives, and can simply sell on brand alone now. Playstation is now the Apple of gaming, nothing more than a lifestyle brand.
37Play7 days ago
Honestly? This might be the last console generation. The industry is largely moving towards digital and it makes sense that Sony is pushing their audience towards that direction. Think about it, PS5 digital edition solely exists to cut the retail middle man out of the picture. Digital Deluxe versions are now being prioritized over physical, not to mention some games only have digital releases. I definitely see a PlayStation launcher happening in future.
38Play7 days ago
@GKO900. This won’t hurt PlayStation at all, especially when companies are getting more profits off digital sales than they otherwise would with physical.
39Bamila7 days ago
I couldn’t play past first 1.5 hr in the game. Mainly how ugly the games visuals are. It just broke the immersion to me as soon as I finished the intro section and got my horse to ride in the field. The shiny plastic feel to it and the aesthetics just wasn’t there and didn’t do it to me. Bought it day one and it is the least played exclusive I have bought ever.
40Col_McCafferty7 days ago
@gollumb82 No offence mate but you bought a Series X and all their games end up on PC. You going to sell that as well?
41OmegaStriver7 days ago
I’m to the point to where I hope Sony starts putting their games on PC day one. That would be the push I need to make the jump. The cost is not a concern to me.
I’m going to build a PC eventually as I’m waiting for Xbox to grow their library but if Sony jumps in that will speed up my move.
42TheArt7 days ago
Yea so PC continues to win, Sony exclusives and Bethesda games, why should one get either console. Awful awful decisions on both PS and Xbox part no matter how you spin it. It’s not about PC folks getting to play but it’s the POINT of getting console first off. Xbox’s spending $7B just to put Bethesda games on PC day one also but keep them away from PS is the silliest of all, I mean it’d even make sense if it was exclusive to Xbox entirely.
43Korgon7 days ago
Playstation users: You have no console loyalty!
PC users: And you are a slave to it!
Real talk though PC looks like it might be the way to go if your looking for maximum access to games. You get Xbox games, Playstation games, and PC only games.
I prefer console gaming and probably always will, but I do dabble occasionally in PC (especially for the Trails series since 2 of them are only on PC if you want to play in English). Sure the upfront cost is higher than console, but if you get the best of both Sony and Xbox, dropping a grand or more on a beast gaming PC isn’t so hard to swallow all of a sudden.
44Play7 days ago
Mark my words Nintendo WILL make the jump to PC. It’s only a matter of time now that Microsoft and Sony are both on board.
45Yozora146_7 days ago
@gollumb82 Streaming will never likely be mainstream, and those that are for it are largely people who confuse latency in streaming due to broadband speed which are two very separate things.
46twitchtvpat7 days ago
when did this comment section turn into the emo kids that sit here and complain about everything?
47Aelurio7 days ago
Removed – current gen piracy/emulation
48ViolentEntity7 days ago
@Korgon that’s where my minds at and don’t have online cost either on PC so there is your money back from the start
49twitchtvpat7 days ago
@MS7000 how is sony throwing away reasons to buy a ps5 putting ps4 games on pc? if anything they are trying to get pc gamers to buy a ps5 to play all the sequels to those games.
50gollumb827 days ago
I already did as I found I was only playing backwards compatible games from X1 and X360 era. No interesting exclusives in sight either, at least from my point of view (I’m a mainly single player guy who prefers good stories over meaningless multiplayer). I have a large Steam library to fall back on if I decide to go back to PC gaming. Exclusives are what keeps me coming back to Sony’s consoles. With that gone, it really makes you think about where you want to play.
51Play7 days ago
@twitchtvpat Do you honestly believe that? What’s going to happen once Playstation games start popping up on Steam day in date?
52art_of_the_kill7 days ago
Funny how I’m tending to see more and more dissent over this issue as Sony continues to go down this road. I remember last year when the HZD PC port was announced how so many of the comments were “who cares?! it’s three years old.” or “why are you so mad more people will get to play it?” Of course, many of those comments are still abundant, but I’m definitely noticing how more and more people are starting to not be okay with this.
In any case, if Sony is indeed putting GoT on PC after only a year, then it just merely confirms what I’ve been saying about what would happen if they start feeling comfortable doing something that offers ZERO benefit to their existing userbase. If a year is now acceptable for a first-party Sony exclusive to lose its exclusivity, how much of a stretch will it be for us to get to merely six months of exclusivity? How much of a stretch is it for that window to keep shrinking until Sony becomes MS and does date-and-date releases? I mean, we’ve already come SO FAR in just a year if Herman Hulst is saying that Sony’s PC players are “important” to them despite the fact that they had no PC players at all just a year ago. This is escalating quickly.
53gollumb827 days ago
I hope you’re right. I’ve tried xCloud and it sucks due to latency despite my good internet connection (500MB/s). However, looking at how MS is now on the streaming bandwagon things may start to change. I will actually consider an xCloud stick for my tv in a year or so (if I don’t switch to PC by then).
54Col_McCafferty7 days ago
@gollumb82 Ah really? Didn’t know that.
I guess for the price of both the Series X and PS5 (and a little bit more on top!) you could get a pretty good gaming rig.
I just think I prefer console gaming but I can understand why some are happy to go PC for their gaming needs
55hi_drnick7 days ago
So, I think most people who take the time to comment here are missing one very salient point. We are geeks. That’s why we’re here. We have a higher level of interest in this hobby than the VAST majority of consumers. You know what the VAST majority of consumers are doing right now? Not worrying about Playstation games coming to PC.
Do you know why? Coz they don’t play games on PC and they couldn’t care less about exclusivity blah blah blah. So all this mock shock about exclusives is mostly for naught because your average consumer will do their gaming on a console and geeks will spend too much time moaning on comment boards.
56twitchtvpat7 days ago
@gollumb82 a few ps4 games on pc doesn’t mean there are no exclusive games , you guys are crazy and reading too much into this.
57The_New_Butler7 days ago
@Play If history tells us anything it is Nintendo will stubbornly and at times to a fault NOT do what the rest of the industry is doing.
Nintendo games will remain on Nintendo systems alone ad infinitum.
58KippDynamite7 days ago
When people are in the market to buy a product they often find a few good options and compare them. They figure out which product has the traits they want/need and pick that one. I bought a Dyson vac because I wanted a vac with good mobility, a waste bin that’s easy to empty, and a vac that’s easy to take apart. I bought my kitchen table because it was relatively cheap but sturdy and matched my decor. I bought an N64 because I wanted to play Mario 64, Mario kart, and GoldenEye. I bought a PS3 to play Metal Gear Solid 4.
If your product doesn’t have anything unique to offer, there is limited incentive to buy it. One of the main reasons I’ve never bothered with Xbox is because it has nothing unique – I can just get their games on PC if I really wanted to.
PlayStation are compromising their multi-billion dollar business strategy to chase a few million dollars in publisher sales. It seems really short-sighted. It also ignores 40 years of console sales history, and also seems to ignore basic business logic.
Sales of their own games is a drop in the bucket compared to the 30% take they have in every other product sold through their system. The console business is about getting people to buy your console, and then you get free paydays with all of the other sales. Xbox has never focused on this and they’ve also never been first place in any console generation.
59MS70007 days ago
@twitchtvpat Tsushima has barely been out a year. Sony closing the gaps in releasing “exclusives” on console, and then on PC does not bode well for any supposed PS5 “exclusives” (not that there are many in the first place with Sony turning around and making most of their upcoming releases also on PS4). It feels like they are trying to get games day and date on both PC and console. If that happens, what is the point of owning a PS5?
60Yozora146_7 days ago
@gollumb82 yeah I tried PS Now and the latency is just really off putting, along with random quality drops for me. Google stadia hasn’t really done much for the streaming model market either.
For anyone who doesn’t know though, latency is caused due to the time it takes for data to be sent from one location to another (often called ping) “faster” Internet just refers to a larger bandwidth so more data is being sent but it travels at the same speed. So for an easy to understand example let’s say 1 data packet travels at 60mph and it has to travel 60 miles to get to the server, your latency (or ping) is going to be 2 hours as the data has to come back if your playing a game.
61Play7 days ago
@The_New_Butler Whenever someone on the internet says Nintendo won’t do something, they eventually do that thing.
62ThroughTheIris567 days ago
At this point there really is no point getting a console. It’s getting much harder to justify not getting a gaming PC, on which I can also play Microsoft exclusives, and PC exclusives.
63gollumb827 days ago
You may be right for the moment but if GoT is indeed announced for PC in a month or two the gap between the PS4 and PC release will be too small for me to justify sticking with PS. Just so you know, I still haven’t played GoT yet due to backlog (and only finished Days Gone in February) so I don’t mind waiting a bit. PC then gives you the full Xbox and (some for now) PS games, full gamepad support for both console, the option of plugging it into your tv and playing it at the highest quality possible (granted, you need to have a beefy PC). Also, I’ve been waiting for some PC games to play them on PS but can’t because they’re either badly optimised (Assetto Corsa Competizione) or aren’t coming at all (Insurgency Sandstorm- best multiplayer experience I’ve had). Don’t get me wrong, I’d prefer to stay with PS for mamy reasons so I’ll just wait and see.
64twitchtvpat7 days ago
@MS7000 and you base this off of what a rumor based on a sticker removed and nothing more. god of war had the sticker removed a while ago , and still no announcement for a pc version yet. for all we know this could be years away if its even true. my point is people are freaking out over a sticker removal on a ps4 game.
65The_New_Butler7 days ago
@Play Honestly, you and everyone else have been predicting stuff like this about Nintendo including their demise and yet they keep confounding all of you.
Nintendo will do their own thing until the end of days because it is almost part of their brand identity at this point.
If the ‘internet’ had any wisdom about Nintendo we’d all be playing Breath of the Wild and Mario Odyssey on PS5 by now.
66twitchtvpat7 days ago
@The_New_Butler as long as mario and zelda remain popular nintendo isn’t going any where
67MS70007 days ago
@twitchtvpat I urge you to take another look at my comment. You’ll notice that it says “if this is true”, before I say my piece. I would argue you’re the one jumping the gun here.
68The_New_Butler7 days ago
@twitchtvpat I know, that was implied in my point.
69twitchtvpat7 days ago
@gollumb82 like i said i wouldn’t worry too much about it yet. god of war had the sticker removed in march and still nothing has been announced yet. so if anything they would announce god of war before ghosts.
70twitchtvpat7 days ago
@The_New_Butler i was just backing up your point and agreeing with you
71twitchtvpat7 days ago
@MS7000 i must have missed that part and i apologize it seems we are all freaking out over nothing and jumping the gun on everything
72Juanalf7 days ago
Oh my the gap sure is shrinking between the Playstation and PC release like I knew it would, like I said various times before if you want to know what Sony will look like in a couple of years just take a peak at Microsoft (minus all the money).
Same day releases will happen, there’s nothing that will change that. My follow up question is if you have let’s say Horizon 2 on PS5 and PC, why would you paid more money for the inferior version? I promise you the PS5 won’t be able to do native 4K 60fps with full Ray-tracing at the same time.
73truerbluer7 days ago
I have to hand it to Microsoft, they’re single handedly responsible for baiting Sony into putting games on PC. If MS kept their exclusives on Xbox I’m certain they would have fared better in the console competition and wouldn’t have become the embarrassment that Xbox One was. If games like Forza Horizon, Ori and Gears remained only playable on Xbox I certainly would have bought the console for those games and am sure many others would have too. But as soon as they went day one PC/Xbox their consoles became completely redundant.
Now MS has every advantage on PC, they have the default controller that works natively on all modern games and they have their own Windows platform to push Game Pass and take 100% revenue from. Meanwhile Sony has to split their sales revenue with Valve and Epic while conforming to Xbox controller standards so their games work on PC. MS has effectively benefitted the most from Sony’s PC ports as it draws people away from PlayStation and gives MS a base to peddle Game Pass to. Sony only makes money from one time sales on PC and nothing from 3rd parties. Now Sony will be losing out a lot unless they start to implement microtransactions just like all the other major 3rd parties do on PC and their game design and philosophy will be changed irrecoverably going forward.
74Juanalf7 days ago
Also if you have the money, can get the parts and haven’t invested in a next gen consule I don’t see why you wouldn’t go for a PC at the moment.
You get to play everything from Xbox with the games at their best, you’ll eventually will get to play everything from Playstation with best settings and then there’s the PC exclusive stuff that never even makes it to consoles.
It seems the PC is the jack of all trades and master of all. It’s really sad what’s happening to Playstation, Is losing it’s identify and is trying to transition itself as a service like what Microsoft is trying to do.
75gollumb827 days ago
You’re right. I’ve calmed down now that I’ve checked how much I’d have to pay for a good gaming PC (3x as much as a PS5 ). Guess I’ll just enjoy my Playstation 5 for a few more years at least
76twitchtvpat7 days ago
@gollumb82 my pc rig i just recently purchased cost me over 2k , and that is only with a 3060 gpu. if you are looking at a 3080 or a 3090 could be 2.5k – 3k , depending how big of a hard drive you want too , m2 memory can get expensive.
77__jamiie7 days ago
This is fantastic news! GoT on Xbox!
78Amppari7 days ago
I LOVE seeing fanboys cry about this, while ps5 is setting sales records xD
79The_New_Butler7 days ago
@Juanalf The assumption that you get to play games at their best on PC is a bit of a joke to be honest.
Do you have any idea how much it costs to get a PC to do 4k 60fps consistently? Not to mention that getting a GPU at retail price right now is way harder than getting a PS5!
It is also a never ending cycle with PC hardware. You could get a more than respectable 3070 but then there is a 3080 for a bit more or do you go all out and buy the 3080 ti? But don’t forget that if you are going down that route you need the PSU to back it up. Oh and don’t forget that PCs need cooling and the more power you put in it the more fans you need and the more noise the thing makes. I mean you could look at liquid cooling but that’s a whole other ball game in terms of complications and cost.
We haven’t even got to CPU and memory. Oh and if you want decent keyboard and mouse that will set you back a load more cash and you will still end up buying an Xbox or PS controller in all likelihood.
Prices are better in the US but a comparable PC would give you enough money for all 3 current consoles and some.
And the deals on games aren’t anywhere near as good as they used to be either with consoles being pretty comparable.
Online subs are really the only down side to consoles now.
80The_New_Butler7 days ago
@twitchtvpat @gollumb82 I wish more people would actually go and price up a decent PC before saying they are just going to swap over.
It is prohibitively expensive for most and still doesn’t guarantee best results.
81SJBUK7 days ago
Doesn’t bother me in the slightest. Some games I’d prefer to play on my PC, on a 24 inch screen. Some on a console with surround sound and a 65 inch screen. Just means I get more choice on which platform to buy it for.
When the PS was a custom bit of hardware it made sense for the games to be platform specific, no real choice. Now? Relatively easy port to anything with an x86 architecture, so why not?
If PSVR2 wasn’t on the horizon I’d be thinking this gen Playstation might be my last. Far cheaper than buying a suitable PC and PC VR system and not offered by XBox.
82Richnj7 days ago
I don’t enjoy games that are playable on platforms other than the one I own.
83Shepherd_Tallon7 days ago
If you have a physical copy of any PS5 exclusive, look at it.
None of them have “Only on PlayStation” anymore. It’s no longer part of the branding.
Returnal doesn’t have it.
Ratchet and Clank doesn’t have it.
Demon’s Souls doesn’t have it.
Some self awareness is needed here, folks. If anyone is angered by this, you needed to understand that you are in a very small minority.
PlayStation exclusives will all make their way to PC now. Not at launch, and not even in the first few years. But it will happen.
The best way to advertise all of these new upcoming PS5 games to PC players is to sell them the previous entries in the series.
So many PC streamers on Twitch who play Dark Souls got PS4s for Bloodborne.
It changes nothing. The console is still at the centre of the experience. The wider market outside of the core demographic still massively favour consoles to PC. I don’t see how anything can change that.
This will do about as much harm to console gaming as mobile gaming did. You can all relax and be happy that now even more people will be playing what are arguably the best first party games in the industry.
84gollumb827 days ago
Congrats man! It’s a beast of a PC you’ve got. The most I could afford would net me an RTX 2060 and that’s not worth the hassle. It seems I’d be better off buying a Series X when the exclusives start rolling in.
85twitchtvpat7 days ago
@SJBUK i enjoyed the ps4 vr , and if all the rumors are true ps5 vr is going to be something amazing i can’t wait.
86ArcticSin7 days ago
The less money I have to waste on a pointless console to play games that interest me the better
87Play7 days ago
@The_New_Butler Demise? Yeesh. No, I still stand by what I said, Nintendo won’t ignore Sony’s and Microsoft push to PC. It’s only a matter of time.
88The_New_Butler7 days ago
@Play That’s fine but Nintendo don’t look at others for their plans and I would take a bet against you that Nintendo never see PC versions all the time Nintendo have hardware on the market.
89OmegaStriver7 days ago
@Shepherd_Tallon You say it will do no harm to console gaming yet I’ve bought every Sony console since it has existed and with their move to PC I’m looking to make the jump. So, there will be at least 2-3 console sales lost as I usually buy multiple for my family and I can’t be the only person thinking this way.
90TheFrenchiestFry7 days ago
All modern PlayStation box art got rid of that. Even third party exclusives don’t have the “Only on PlayStation” thing anymore, as do recent releases like Returnal, Ratchet, Demon’s Souls, Sackboy and Spider-Man. It seems like that kind of branding is dead within the company now
This isn’t necessarily indicative that a PC version is on the way immediately although that would be cool
91TheFrenchiestFry7 days ago
@The_New_Butler The thing with Nintendo is that they’re probably the one super traditional console maker left in that console and game making is their only facet of business, and they pretty much have nothing else they could generate nearly as much of a revenue on
I don’t see them doing something as drastic as putting Mario Odyssey or Zelda on Steam because unlike Sony and Microsoft they have literally nothing else to fall back on
92Shepherd_Tallon7 days ago
@OmegaStriver You’re definitely not the only person thinking this way, it’s just that the number of people who think this way are a very small vocal number who frequent internet comment sections.
I guess in 5 or 6 years we’ll take a look at the sales numbers, then we’ll know. ?♂?
And like I said, the branding has been removed from all of their boxes.
This is just the Internet doing that knee jerk reaction thing it always does.
93art_of_the_kill7 days ago
Like I said, from where I’m standing, the dissent doesn’t really seem like a minority anymore. At least not as much as it was. Surprise surprise, though, how even in this comment section, many are saying they would gladly drop PlayStation consoles if their games keep coming to PC–people who are literally happy about the prospect of not needing to own a PS system anymore. I find it rather funny how people who are put off by the dissent neglect to acknowledge things like that–the fact that some people are happy about it because they WANT to have a reason to not buy into the PlayStation ecosystem. And Sony is giving it to them.
But sure, totally changes nothing. And PS owners should totally be happy about being directly misled and lied to by Sony and the fact others are going to be playing the superior versions of Sony’s games that won’t be available to people who actually bought and play on Sony’s consoles. Why oh why would anyone have a problem with that?
94The_New_Butler7 days ago
@TheFrenchiestFry What exactly are the others ‘falling back on’?
The truth is that Nintendo build their games around their hardware and often have very specific mechanics and features that go with that.
They also make a profit on their hardware, so they still rely on hardware sales to generate money. Sony and MS only make money on software, subs, accessories and licensing with maybe a small side line in merchandise.
I’d agree that Nintendo still have the most traditional business model but I don’t think Sony are that different to be honest.
95TheFrenchiestFry7 days ago
@The_New_Butler Sony has stuff like their other technology and film divisions and Microsoft has literally everything regarding their PC market like Windows and Surface, of which that audience is probably considerably larger than the people who squarely buy their Xbox products
Nintendo literally only has games and game consoles. They’re starting to expand into other multimedia ventures like the Universal theme park and licensing out their IPs to film studios like with that upcoming Mario movie, but any other ventures to bring their game experiences to other platforms like their mobile efforts were extremely short lived and not very well received for the most part
I do agree Sony’s strategy is still not ambitious to the extent of what Microsoft is doing, but they’ve at least broadened their horizons. Nintendo is still very old-fashioned. Some would argue it’s a pretty strict mindset about valuing that people only play on their consoles if they want to play their games or games featuring their franchises. That’s why we get stuff like them DMCA’ing people making fan games or uploading their music to YT
96RayNick7 days ago
@Shepherd_Tallon “This will do about as much harm to console gaming as mobile gaming did.”
Well, the gaming mobile actually did a lot of harm, not only to console gaming but a gaming as a whole. They basically normalised microtransactions, same way early access titles normalised releasing unfinished games and patching them up later.
97Shepherd_Tallon7 days ago
@art_of_the_kill If you’re angry, you’re angry.
This is just my hobby. I love it, and always will. But I don’t live for it so I don’t get angry.
The last time I felt like Sony were trying to mislead me was with that cg Killzone trailer. Everything else is just changing plans.
Remember, the Internet is the mob, and right now the mob hates Sony.
Between E3 2013 and E3 2016 the mob hated Xbox. But very few people today are calling MS liars for putting their games on PC day 1. And their console sales have improved this gen so far.
Nobody outside of the enthusiast community cares about this stuff. We come here and we rage and it doesn’t matter. In a few years everyone will be mad at Nintendo for something and they’ll forget about Sony for a bit.
All I’m saying is, you’re entitled to be angry, but the fact that you’re angry doesn’t matter. There’s too much money to be made here, and Sony want PlayStation to expand and diversify. That’s what this is about.
A company that doesn’t diversify, dies.
98TheFrenchiestFry7 days ago
@Shepherd_Tallon Yeah people act like this is a huge deal but I doubt casual gamers who likely only game on consoles to begin with are going to even remotely care because they just don’t care about investing in a good PC anyway
99The_New_Butler7 days ago
@TheFrenchiestFry I see what you mean now. I wasn’t thinking outside the gamin divisions to be honest. So yes I totally agree if we are talking company wide. Although PlayStation has been propping up Sony for years.
As for Nintendo, I have a continued love/hate relationship with them and many of their practices and they are as infuriating as they are wonderful.
100David1877 days ago
all the overreacting from some is OTT Sony & PlayStation are doing better than ever when stock fully returns they will leave MS in the dust again they are already outselling Xboxs 2 consoles 2.1.
101Shepherd_Tallon7 days ago
@RayNick Come on. Clearly I meant with regards to the impact on console sales.
Everyone said moblie gaming would eat in to console gaming’s slice of the pie. But all it did was make the pie bigger and reach more demographics,while console sales skyrocketed for Sony and Nintendo.
And I promise you, micro transactions were coming regardless.
You can all be angry, but I guarantee you that more people are happy about this than angry.
Think about all of those multiplatform gaming sites, where gamers have shouted for years about how Sony are anti consumer for not putting their games on PC. Most of them will be delighted about this.
It’s just expanding the audience.
I couldn’t care less about PC as a gaming platform. I work in the games industry and I’m sitting at a PC all day.
Consoles are where I spend my down time.
I’m happy to wait 4 years to get Baldur’s Gate III on PS5, but I doubt if there are PC gamers saying that if it’s going to console, then why are they playing on PC.
It makes no difference.
102Play7 days ago
@OmegaStriver Good point, I wonder how many people are jumping off the PS5 bandwagon now that Sony’s games a rapidly hitting Steam?
103David1877 days ago
@Shepherd_Tallon same here I will still enjoy playing my Playstation PC gaming has never interested me & I have a PC more than capable of doing it.
I was a pitchfork guy about this a while ago! but Im starting to not care if I’m honest it won’t affect how I play games. not like they are putting them on PC day one as well.
104The_New_Butler7 days ago
@Play The percentage will be tiny and even the ones that are considering it will, I’d wager, many will change their minds when they do the research.
I did exactly that last year.
105art_of_the_kill7 days ago
You’re definitely right about people being entitled to be angry. As far as I’m concerned, every single PlayStation owner who is angry about this has a right to be. And it still needs to be pushed back against that the only party who remains angry are Sony fanboys who are sad about seeing their precious exclusivity go bye-bye. This is all about Sony being actively encouraged to act in a way that offers zero benefit to their existing customers: misleading them with exclusivity, then making the best versions not available to those who possibly bought their consoles for them.
Also, no this is definitely not a life or death thing for Sony. Not in the slightest. And you know what, if Sony were really so strapped for cash that they needed to make some extra dough, one cost-saving measure I would recommend is for them to just stop money-hatting timed third-party exclusives. That’s something they could easily stop doing. But no, instead…er…they want to make sure their console has exclusive content worth buying hardware for….while at the same time giving their exclusive content away…?
Yeah, that’s totally not a ridiculous paradox or anything, but Jim Ryan gonna Jim Ryan.
106MS70007 days ago
@twitchtvpat Ehh, it’s fine. I’ve misread stuff before, so it’s easily done.
107mrtennis19907 days ago
@Shepherd_Tallon I completely 100 percent agree with you. Do people not understand that Sony has earned the right and privilege to be able to finally start growing the PlayStation brand at the rate it deserves due to all the hard work and support it has gained over the past generation? People have to start getting past this console war nonsense and start doing some research. Things are changing over at PlayStation whether people like it or not…
108Agramonte7 days ago
Jumping on your couch and pressing 1 button on a controller (for years at a time) and you in a game… is not how PC gaming works.
Console Exclusives has never been the reason PC cant kill consoles. That had always been more about Console Wars.
109RayNick7 days ago
@Shepherd_Tallon You are jumping from point to point, without much cohesion, so it’s hard to follow.
First of all, even back in the day, those who truly “believed” that mobile was going to overtake the gaming mainstream were mostly the people who wanted that industry to thrive (publishers, suits, etc.) or analysts (who don’t often have a good track record). Regardless, it’s always up to the people whether or not something passes and even then, even casual groups didn’t believe that mobile gaming would overtake console/PC gaming, wspecially when PC was rising even more at the time.
Second of all, i never said MX were never coming, they were in one form or another, but mobile gaming was the first step to normalise it on all platforms, while others later took it too far.
Third, i don’t know why you are including me in the “angry” crowd, since i don’t think i expressed any form of anger in my comments. Regardless, i do sympathise with people on some level, not necessarily those who want something to themselves only, but rather those who are feeling misled and aren’t able to make an informed opinion on their purchases.
Not everyone has the money to afford more than 1 gaming console every gen. (sometimes, they even have to choose between a console and a PC as well), so they simply want to make the best purchasing desicion for themselves. Sony however has purposefully misled, or rather witheld information about exclusives games, which ARE important to people (whether they are “hardcore” or “casual” is completely irrelevant). At the very least, they are not upfront about that situation, and that is something that any logical person cannot deny.
Personally, i never cared about forums, especially PC forums were people cry about “gatekeeping” in regards to exclusives, where in fact, PC gamers are the only ones actually benefitting from that. This isn’t a bad thing, so if people want from Sony upfront information in order to potentially make the jump, how come they are unnecessarily “angry” or “entitled” when they don’t get that? Expanding and diversifying comes with consequences, it’s not just “more money”. Sony shouldn’t expect people to just flock on its systems when better options are out there for people.
All in all, i don’t think you should assume that this “anger” only comes from from vocal, illogical and angry minorities who don’t matter, because that sounds really pretentious, deflective, short sighted and potentially out-right wrong. If we are to listen to opinions, we listen to everyones opinions equally, not just those who we tend to agree with more, regardless if it’s a minority or a majority. I’d like to think that that’s not how you think, however your writing came off as something like that.
Lastly, i would like to just say that, if this situation doesn’t actually bother you personally like you claim, then why are you defending a multibillion dollar company’s choice? Why do you care that some people are overly-angry (as you put it) about this? You can just ignore it and move on (not saying you should’t express your opinion, of course you should. However, if you don’t have skin in the game like you claim, then why bother?).
110JJ27 days ago
I don’t know. Its really early to speculate and rage of fake outrage just like the supposed Demon Soul Demake to PS4 article that was complete BS..(but didn’t get updated, right?)
I mean GoT might release to PC at some point but maybe Rage then?
I get it’s good for traffic and comments though.
Not too fond of rumours and speculation.
111BrainHacker7 days ago
I bet majority of PS owners wouldn’t even care about this. Who cares if more people can play the game that you already enjoyed on another platform? Why the f–k would it matter to you? If it affects Sony in a positive or negative way. Why the f–ck would you care? It’s not your money anyway lol.
112AchievingGamer7 days ago
Good, one of the best games of 2020.
113AchievingGamer7 days ago
@BrainHacker You clearly care because I can see the salt from here.
114Ilovecoffee7 days ago
I’m still not gaming on a computer
115BrainHacker7 days ago
@AchievingGamer You’re clearly mistaken. I don’t know how many times I’ve been in “debate” over this console exclusivity bs. I’m quite happy that I can play GoT again on PC without the hardware limitations of the PS4/PS5.
116Lovespuds6 days ago
Removed – unconstructive
117captainaverage6 days ago
The more people play great games like this the better.
118Shepherd_Tallon6 days ago
@mrtennis1990 @David187 To be honest I used to get worked up about this stuff too when I was young. But at some point it stopped mattering. I just want to play the games and talk about how much fun they are.
The success PlayStation are having is almost terrifying right now. Game Pass is taking off but PS5 is still incredibly popular, and this is not just with supply restrictions, but also while a lot of people are mad at Sony.
PlayStation will always be my preferred platform, but now my friends who play on PC will see what they’ve been missing. That’s a win/win.
119Dman106 days ago
There are several groups of players. This includes pc only players, combo pcconsole payers and console only players. It doesn’t matter to me whether an Xbox, PS, or Nintendo games are on PC because I will always play the console version.
120PCPS4XB6 days ago
@Deadlyblack from what I heard, GOT can be played 60fps @4K on ps5
121Shigurui6 days ago
Regardless of whatever Hulst says, day and date PC releases will happen eventually and Sony don’t care what you think or do. They make little to no money from hardware sales and all the money from software. Makes perfect sense to expand their software revenue stream to PC. Good luck to them.
122palmab6 days ago
PC is my main platform , but id still rather play my PS games on a playstation , HZD looks and plays beautiful on my PC but it just feels like i should be playing it on my playstation.
123Shepherd_Tallon6 days ago
@RayNick Ah, you don’t know me very well.
If I came across as condescending that’s my bad, but I encourage you to check my past comments. I’m a very frank person and I state the truth as I see it without beating around the bush. Since 2016 (this is my second account) I’ve had one argument as a member of this community. Lots of discussions and debates, but only one actual argument.
When I say none of this matters, I don’t mean people or their opinions don’t matter. I mean console games going to PC will not mean the end of consoles.
Console exclusives will continue to drive AAA innovation.
I also mean it doesn’t matter because it will change nothing. More people will be happy about this than angry so the decision will not be reversed. Sony won’t change their minds.
Although I stand by that knee jerk reaction comment and that part about the mob. The internet famously reacts this way.
This is not the end of PlayStation, and nobody has been mislead. (They took the statement off of the boxes and told us the games were going to PC).
All of that passive aggressive stuff where you question my character is a bit much though.
It’s just games. We’re just nerds in a comment section saying what we think about our favourite hobby. We’re allowed to disagree without being accused of ignoring what people think.
Let’s just leave it at that.
124__jamiie6 days ago
@Richnj Agreed. They’re absolutely awful unless they’re made for the box I decided to purchase.
125stridernyc6 days ago
@Grimwood I think Playstation is doing this so that when the sequels come out, the PC users that loved those games would get a PS5 just to play the sequels.
126WallyWest6 days ago
I love how people on here are crying about this and think there’s no reason to own a PS console any more not realizing the vast majority of PS owners have no interest in PC gaming meaning this doesn’t effect them in the slightest.
127RayNick6 days ago
@Shepherd_Tallon I don’t know you, and i wasn’t attacking you or your character, i simply stated that the way you referred to the whole “affair” seemed really one-sided and honestly pretty close minded. There was nothing passive-aggressive about that, and i am not going to scour past comments like an armchair detective since i am not interested in your past comments. I am only responding to the current one.
In regards to the matter at hand, whether something matters or not, is up to the individual and not anyone else to dictate. Keeping a cool head and realising it’s all fine and games is one thing, but that doesn’t mean that people should just accept things because they are “just games that don’t matter”. That doesn’t mean that we should resort to extreme things either, or that it will necessarily change stuff, but IT CAN, potentially. Companies do listen on occassion and that’s a good thing, but it won’t happen if people never express their concerns. It doesn’t always happen in a constructive way, but it’s not like these companies have actual enstablished services where people can voice their opinions clearly (and know they’ve been at least heard) either. It’s not a great solution, far from it, but it’s better than nothing.
Exclusivity, hyperboly and the state of Playstation aside, there are real, serious issues i mentioned, like giving proper information so that people who can’t afford to spend a stupid amount of money on games by double/triple etc. dipping and buying a bunch consoles, are able to make a sound investment. So knowing before-hand if exclusives are going to be actual exclusives and not a marketing buzzword that means less than it used to, is something that should be properly addressed. Again, if you don’t like the use of the word “misled” then “purposefully withholding information” is much more accurate. It’s not about a company giving in to entitled gamers, it’s about being up-front with its customers. If they are afraid of losing customers that way, well that’s business. If they are really a vocal minority though, then they really shouldn’t worry about that.
Just saying “games are coming to PC” is vague, it doesn’t properly explain which ones and when and if it can affect a purchase then yes, i think things like these should be addressed.
128Ichiban6 days ago
PC, Xbox, N64, I don’t care where Sony’s games end up, as long as they keep making them. One of the very few making the single player adventures I enjoy the most. They’re even bringing out more platformers than Nintendo these days.
What worries me is 3rd party output. 3 gens of GTA5 with no sign of a 6, classic franchises turned into online or service games, and just the same yearly garbage year in year out.
PC players need something, it’s not like Star Citizen is ever coming out.
129GamingFan4Lyf6 days ago
@twitchtvpat @gollumb82 This is exactly why I got out of PC gaming. Sure you are more likely to get the best experience on a PC, but the cost of getting that experience is significantly more expensive.
Play the best console version on a Series X or PS5: $500.
Play the absolute best version all together: thousands of $$.
I just couldn’t do it anymore.
130Link41x6 days ago
I’m glad I went Switch/PC this gen.
131SweetSummerShunv6 days ago
@Ralizah You may be pleased to know that the GPU prices are coming down a bit.
As for the main news, I’m ready to take it either way. My Steam backlog is still huge.
132KirbysAdventure6 days ago
As someone who primarily plays on PC, my PS5 purchase is looking less and less justifiable…
133The-Ilusive-Man6 days ago
Well, after being with Sony for over 15 years, I’m sad to say. I’m done with Sony! I’m going xbox!
They seem to have the right attitude towards games.. I can’t even get a ps5, but can get an xbox tomorrow! Its been fun sony!
134The-Ilusive-Man6 days ago
@KirbysAdventure after being with Sony for 15 years… Im done with them! Xbox far more appealing right now!
135David1876 days ago
@KirbysAdventure why are PS5 Exclusive games on PC?
some of you doing the I’m going & glad I did this think you sound believable! it is y!! PS5 has just begun & people doing the I’m leaving not even a fact-based story for a start ?♀?
136AchievingGamer6 days ago
@BrainHacker Glad to hear it.
137TooBarFoo5 days ago
I’m amazed at all the “I’ll just spend ￡2k on a PC instead of getting a ￡500 PC5 then” a lot of seemingly very childish reactions. I do not get why folks are so triggered by other people getting things. PS5 hardware lose money on every sale. Sony needs to make returns on its investment into games. If PC sales help Sony make better games we all win.
138reek5 days ago
GOOD. Can somebody entice Nintendo to do the same now Epic?
139KidBoruto3 days ago
@Deadlyblack Native PS5 upgrade would be very welcomed, as well as a proper sequel.
140twitchtvpat2 days ago
@GamingFan4Lyf i hear you on that, if you want to get something that will last a while you have to spend the money , yeah you can go cheaper , but the cheaper you go on a pc , it will be outdated sooner. and upgrading your pc in order to get the most out of it , costs more then a console itself. once you get a console you don’t have to worry about being able to playing a game or not till the next console comes out.
141twitchtvpat2 days ago
@TooBarFoo i don’t think they realize how expensive a gaming pc is , they probably see a cheap pc and think its good.
142anoyonmus15 hours ago
@Play yeah no
Unlike Xbox and PlayStation, iirc Nintendo doesn’t sell their consoles specifically the switch at a loss.
Nintendo profits more from their hardware than their games. Well I think they profit from both hardware and games but more on hardware.
Putting games on PC will hurt Nintendo the most because they don’t sell consoles at a loss. Well the switch doesn’t but Idk about other consoles.
And also a fact check
Nintendo hates piracy and modding.
143anoyonmus15 hours ago
@reek in my opinion
Putting games on PC will only hurt Nintendo not benefit them.
Sure, more people will get to play it. But Nintendo makes profit from their hardware sales unlike Xbox and PlayStation. Also Nintendo games are centered around the hardware.
And they also hate fan games, piracy, and modding which is what many PC gamers love to do
144reek8 hours ago
@anoyonmus I know but in a perfect world, there wouldn’t be exclusives since it’s an anti-consumer choice.
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